i really dont think there is such thing as nub in MoH...cuz all weapons have their ups n downs... ppl like the VMP crew said it takes skill to use no scope gew... but all u have to do wit gew is put a dot where the pin point is n u got 1 shot 2 shot kills... or just fire random shots... thts wut TR BILLABONG along time MoH bud told me bac in the day, sg 1 shot kills, rpg 1 shot kills, stg44 10 shot kills if ur skilled, thommy 1 clip if ur skilled,bar 1 clip if ur skilled n mp40 actully is pretty much the non nub weapon cuz it takes tons of skill to use it...so pretty much it like when u get gud at a gun u become a nub i guess cuz u never change tht gun n dont try new guns... lol but wht i said is wat i think... i dont thing is so such thing as nub... u guyz have opinions too so... yea... im kinda independent when it comes to this kind of stuff